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Ooof. This one landed hard. Personally, I never liked the story and "hated" having to read it in high school as required reading. It didn't teach me anything positive as a teenage boy.

My take from this essay is one word: Hate.

The word that seems to both be attracting (large amounts of clicks and solidarity) and, at the same time, is despised as a despicable emotion to express (categorical attacks, "I hate you mom!", "I hate men!", "I hate people!", etc.). The intensity of emotional power it has for attracting and repelling is very high. This essay does a great job at highlighting it's power.

After reading Jonathan Haidt's recounting on the use of dark behavioral science at Facebook/Meta/Instagram to make their platforms addictive, I liken some forms of art/writing to the same concept except for addictive arousal: to provoke an aggressive, dark response.

And what's really sinister, is the subliminal images lingering in art and writing. Beatrice did a nice job of putting a light on the shadows of this movie. Shadows that hit young girls watching it who have no idea what they just received and how their brain processed it. Liken this to the addictive Instagram algorithms, they just keep doom scrolling, feeding their brain with harmful material. Harmful to themselves and harmful to how they present to others after digesting it. Lots of times arousing hate (of themselves and/or others) and leaving that person in an emotional state without any way to reconcile the hate.

This piece really shows (and even my own comment is doing this) how our bias/view can directly and indirectly impact people who consume it. What I gained from Beatrice's review of the movie is that I have no interest in watching it. Even more so now knowing how divergent it is from the original author's text. Both pieces don't draw my interest simply because I already live in a world with that darkness. Is it really healthy to subject myself to more of it as "entertainment"? In fact, I wish I hadn't even read Beatrice's review and kept my mind clean of all the darkness that comes from going down this rabbit hole. The problem is, people will judge me as being naive and "out of touch" if I don't consume and respond. It's a no-win scenario when it comes to this kind of material. I sure don't walk away feeling good. And if I express any feelings of good to the world, they push me to look at all the darkness.

It's one thing to write story's that presents a struggle and a way through that struggle to inspire people. It's entirely different behavior to present what looks like an unsolvable struggle to arouse hate with no resolution/reconciliation. As I used to ask my kids when they were young and started verbally fighting, "What's the end game here with throwing the verbal grenade into the room and starting the fight?" In their case, it was attention or some kind of unfairness. I'm not sure I understand the end game or resolution/reconciliation in these pieces. With my kids, it was real-time and could be reconciled. With these pieces portraying unhealthy behaviors, what do we expect the emotional response to be? Hate? If so, then is one supposed to do with that hate?

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As someone who has lived all the live long day as a man ~ at it for over 66 years now ~ when I read the opening quote, the first fuzzy run-on sentence to form in this aging stewpot of a brain came together thus:

"Huh, well, historically, but without temptations allure to muddle things, I've 'always' (that would mean roughly since the mid-1980s), viewed men, at least most of the ones I know or have known, as defective humans, still do, and yes, as humans born and raised inside the patriarchal hierarchies of the last 6000 or so years, women are equal prey to similar defects, but seldom as susceptible in the numbers and ways we boys are when it comes to going into full blown defective human mode."

Wait...what? Wanna define that defective part of being human? HA! If you're here, that means you are a bookish sort of human, which also means you, me, and all of us together know any attempt to answer that question will have us going on and on and on, and each of us could and would cite 1,000s of our fellow thoughtful humans who have been kind enough to leave behind well written sentences on the topic.

So ~ let's stick to the generics. What am I? An Earthling. Can I be more specific? A 3BPP with a severe case of the OTs. Ahem, care to clarify that? Big-Brained-Bi-Pedal-Primate w/ Opposable Thumbs...also known as a Human. Okay, anything to say on this defective business? Yeah, it's like this ~ when we started using the Trick ...

{(our capacity to use sounds and symbols to make things up that never were, which is what makes our language distinctive from how other life forms talk, and is something I happen to believe was invented by the womenfolk)}

... it, the Trick, opened the door to thinking like a machine instead of as a living critter. We invented alot of machines that way, both real and imagined. Example of a real one: a gun. Example of an imagined one: a god. Okay, so bottom line what makes us defective? It's how we use our smarts.

Euwwww. Can you be more specific and wrap this up you fucking a-hole mansplainer?

Sure, it's like this...oh, and I'm sorta paraphrasing a professor I had in college over 40 years ago...a defective human uses human intelligence as if it was invented by a machine. What?

Oh, fuquette, let me just share the quote: "Intelligence has no kindness of its own, but Kindness has an Intelligence All its Own." Because that's what it means to be a fully functional Human thriving in all our capacities ~ we are always first and foremost Kin/Kind/Kindred, and when we forget that, and think we can still think intelligently ~ we are defective humans.

And as I find myself still capable of such defective ways of musing about the world, I keep reading and visiting places with names like "fairer disputations", to see what other kind folks are thinking about and trying to say. So...thanks for being here!

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